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		<title>By: Good luck with your marketing campaign, Chase: If the customer experience is anything like what we&#8217;ve been witnessing in astonishment and disgust lately, the &#8220;Ink&#8221; card will stink. &#8211; ChangeinTerms.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good luck with your marketing campaign, Chase: If the customer experience is anything like what we&#8217;ve been witnessing in astonishment and disgust lately, the &#8220;Ink&#8221; card will stink. &#8211; ChangeinTerms.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have impaled any semblance of honor and exposed your true nature as an organization that acted in bad faith, and now wants to get away with it.  But you [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1613</link>
		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious to know... has everybody filed complaints with www.consumeraffairs.com ? They regularly file class action lawsuits based on complaints they receive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious to know&#8230; has everybody filed complaints with <a href="http://www.consumeraffairs.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.consumeraffairs.com</a> ? They regularly file class action lawsuits based on complaints they receive.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chase has been completely inconsistent in dealing with the victims that have actually managed to get past the first level Customer Service Representatives. The mind games and the additional psychological trauma that they are subjecting these people to are truly insidious:

1) Upon first contact with Customer Service, Chase does not initially offer any kind of deal – the customers are told they are stuck with it.

2) If a customer insists on speaking to a supervisor, Chase offers to restore the 2% minimum payment, with an increase in APR, sometimes 7.99%, sometimes higher. This APR is only good for a year, followed by an increase to the “going rate” of 20% plus – not much of a deal.

3) If a customer gets a hold of some “inside information” such as the possibility of a “hardship” or “proactive solutions” department, they are either told no such department exists or reluctantly transferred to the department.

4) If a customer gets a hold of the number for one of the &quot;non-existent&quot; departments from one of the protest blogs (877-890-2941 or 800-404-6220) and calls in, they are subjected to a humiliating review of their personal income and finances to see if they “qualify”. Some people have managed to get a five year, fixed payment deal, at a low APR, some have been offered the deal at a higher APR. 

5) In order to “qualify” the customer must consent to A) closing their account and B) giving Chase bank electronic access to their checking account for automatic payment withdrawals, for the first few payments. The customer has to accept these conditions, whether they have been notified of approval or not.

6) Some people have gotten off the phone, with the impression that they have a deal, only to be told days later that they don’t qualify.

7) The customers who have been accepted have to sit around for weeks, waiting for the written confirmation of their “deal” and wondering what the terms really are. Obviously, nobody trusts Chase to work in good faith. How utterly nerve wracking!

Wait, it gets worse - Some of the customers have stated that, despite their being rejected for the “deal”, their credit lines get cut or closed, their interest rates raised, and their FICO scores trashed - All because they confided their personal financial information to Chase, in desperation for some assistance. Some customers have even said that Chase has initiated the electronic debiting of their accounts, even though they were rejected for the plan!

Regarding some claims about the five year, fixed payment loan, I have been unable to find out if the new plan is a conversion to a secured loan and whether the majority of interest is paid up front. I have posted these questions on the blog sites, but everybody is so upset about their lives being turned upside down, I haven’t had any responses. I am not willing to participate in Chase’s social experiment, in order to find out.

Lastly, if anybody goes to the following link, please see posts 447 and 567:

http://credit.about.com/b/2009/06/26/chase-increases-minimum-payment-on-credit-card-balances.htm


I think the person who posted #567 might have called Toni at Gerald Smith’s office, listed in post #447. It is not clear. What is truly despicable is what Chase put this person (whose moniker is “Sleepless”) through. In addition, the latest posts imply that Chase may not even be offering to reduce customers to a 2% minimum payment, any more! Clearly, some cold blooded SOB has analyzed the numbers and decided it is no longer in Chase’s best interests to negotiate with its customers.

I am sorry for the extremely long post, but I want to spare others from being subjected to the unbelievable abuse these evil institutions are heaping upon the American public. I am not using the word “evil” in a petulant manner. I could not help but come to this conclusion, after observing the effect of their actions on hard working Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chase has been completely inconsistent in dealing with the victims that have actually managed to get past the first level Customer Service Representatives. The mind games and the additional psychological trauma that they are subjecting these people to are truly insidious:</p>
<p>1) Upon first contact with Customer Service, Chase does not initially offer any kind of deal – the customers are told they are stuck with it.</p>
<p>2) If a customer insists on speaking to a supervisor, Chase offers to restore the 2% minimum payment, with an increase in APR, sometimes 7.99%, sometimes higher. This APR is only good for a year, followed by an increase to the “going rate” of 20% plus – not much of a deal.</p>
<p>3) If a customer gets a hold of some “inside information” such as the possibility of a “hardship” or “proactive solutions” department, they are either told no such department exists or reluctantly transferred to the department.</p>
<p>4) If a customer gets a hold of the number for one of the &#8220;non-existent&#8221; departments from one of the protest blogs (877-890-2941 or 800-404-6220) and calls in, they are subjected to a humiliating review of their personal income and finances to see if they “qualify”. Some people have managed to get a five year, fixed payment deal, at a low APR, some have been offered the deal at a higher APR. </p>
<p>5) In order to “qualify” the customer must consent to A) closing their account and B) giving Chase bank electronic access to their checking account for automatic payment withdrawals, for the first few payments. The customer has to accept these conditions, whether they have been notified of approval or not.</p>
<p>6) Some people have gotten off the phone, with the impression that they have a deal, only to be told days later that they don’t qualify.</p>
<p>7) The customers who have been accepted have to sit around for weeks, waiting for the written confirmation of their “deal” and wondering what the terms really are. Obviously, nobody trusts Chase to work in good faith. How utterly nerve wracking!</p>
<p>Wait, it gets worse &#8211; Some of the customers have stated that, despite their being rejected for the “deal”, their credit lines get cut or closed, their interest rates raised, and their FICO scores trashed &#8211; All because they confided their personal financial information to Chase, in desperation for some assistance. Some customers have even said that Chase has initiated the electronic debiting of their accounts, even though they were rejected for the plan!</p>
<p>Regarding some claims about the five year, fixed payment loan, I have been unable to find out if the new plan is a conversion to a secured loan and whether the majority of interest is paid up front. I have posted these questions on the blog sites, but everybody is so upset about their lives being turned upside down, I haven’t had any responses. I am not willing to participate in Chase’s social experiment, in order to find out.</p>
<p>Lastly, if anybody goes to the following link, please see posts 447 and 567:</p>
<p><a href="http://credit.about.com/b/2009/06/26/chase-increases-minimum-payment-on-credit-card-balances.htm" rel="nofollow">http://credit.about.com/b/2009/06/26/chase-increases-minimum-payment-on-credit-card-balances.htm</a></p>
<p>I think the person who posted #567 might have called Toni at Gerald Smith’s office, listed in post #447. It is not clear. What is truly despicable is what Chase put this person (whose moniker is “Sleepless”) through. In addition, the latest posts imply that Chase may not even be offering to reduce customers to a 2% minimum payment, any more! Clearly, some cold blooded SOB has analyzed the numbers and decided it is no longer in Chase’s best interests to negotiate with its customers.</p>
<p>I am sorry for the extremely long post, but I want to spare others from being subjected to the unbelievable abuse these evil institutions are heaping upon the American public. I am not using the word “evil” in a petulant manner. I could not help but come to this conclusion, after observing the effect of their actions on hard working Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Robert Lahm</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1609</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Robert Lahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to point out that Heather H (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1608&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comment 9, above&lt;/a&gt;) has created her own blog, with a very compelling letter to Citibank as its first post.  I have commented under that post on Heather&#039;s own site, but the summary here is that I am touched by what she (and her husband) had to say, and we evidently share the same &quot;moral compass&quot; (whereas banking industry executives, obviously do not).

Please visit and support her link:

http://consumedbydebt.blogspot.com/2009/09/open-letter-to-citibank.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to point out that Heather H (<a href="http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1608" rel="nofollow">comment 9, above</a>) has created her own blog, with a very compelling letter to Citibank as its first post.  I have commented under that post on Heather&#8217;s own site, but the summary here is that I am touched by what she (and her husband) had to say, and we evidently share the same &#8220;moral compass&#8221; (whereas banking industry executives, obviously do not).</p>
<p>Please visit and support her link:</p>
<p><a href="http://consumedbydebt.blogspot.com/2009/09/open-letter-to-citibank.html" rel="nofollow">http://consumedbydebt.blogspot.com/2009/09/open-letter-to-citibank.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heather H</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1608</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I felt similarly when I watched the &quot;Debtors Revolt&quot; Video. I went to grad school, used credit cards to start up a business, etc. This is nothing I should feel shame about and really do not understand all of the...can&#039;t pay cash...you shouldn&#039;t buy it comments.

I am now wondering if there is anyway to sue these companies for personal damages because of how their actions have negatively impacted my credit score. I did not do anything to ruin my credit score...no late payments, no closed accounts, no over extension of credit lines...etc....

Yet my personal credit rating suffered as a result of their banking decisions when they closed unused accounts and lowered credit limits. 

I paid off Chase by the way on September 15th. I have balance transfer checks sitting on my table for .99%. I am refusing to use them to pay off Citibank on principle alone. I don&#039;t care if they sent me an &quot;I am so sorry we made a mistake by blackmailing you letter in April&quot;. 

We must do our best to have fair consumer laws passed to regulate this industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I felt similarly when I watched the &#8220;Debtors Revolt&#8221; Video. I went to grad school, used credit cards to start up a business, etc. This is nothing I should feel shame about and really do not understand all of the&#8230;can&#8217;t pay cash&#8230;you shouldn&#8217;t buy it comments.</p>
<p>I am now wondering if there is anyway to sue these companies for personal damages because of how their actions have negatively impacted my credit score. I did not do anything to ruin my credit score&#8230;no late payments, no closed accounts, no over extension of credit lines&#8230;etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>Yet my personal credit rating suffered as a result of their banking decisions when they closed unused accounts and lowered credit limits. </p>
<p>I paid off Chase by the way on September 15th. I have balance transfer checks sitting on my table for .99%. I am refusing to use them to pay off Citibank on principle alone. I don&#8217;t care if they sent me an &#8220;I am so sorry we made a mistake by blackmailing you letter in April&#8221;. </p>
<p>We must do our best to have fair consumer laws passed to regulate this industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1603</link>
		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your site recently while searching for dirt on Chase.  As someone who is very concerned with corporate abuse of consumers, I think it is an important and laudable thing you are doing, something all too rare.  After reading this particular post I have even more respect for your position and your efforts.

Unfortunately, the society we live in is conditioned--purposefully--to accept corporate dominance with little questioning.  The vicious ignorance which spews forth at those who stand up and fight the injustice displays how insidious and pervasive the culture of subjugation is within the American psyche.

Sympathizers with this site may be thoroughly aware of the immorality with which financial institutions operate themselves, but perhaps not realize that this immorality is common to corporations in ALL industries.  While it is extremely difficult to keep up on all the horrible ways in which consumers are taken advantage of by large companies, I encourage everybody to arm themselves to the extent that they can with knowledge and information in all arenas of commerce.  

To give merely one specific example, food corporations regularly use hydrogenated oils and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) in just about everything--check the ingredient lists of things you regularly buy.  These two ingredients have been scientifically proven for years and years to eventually cause, yes actually CAUSE, cancer and diabetes, respectfully.  Yet they are still omnipresent because they are a very cheap way to get around using higher quality ingredients.  Companies are literally, physically KILLING uninformed consumers who blindly trust that the food they buy is safe.  In addition, HFCS is used because it suppresses the body&#039;s normal functions which indicate to us that we are &quot;full&quot;, making us want to consume more.  Unfortunately, there are many ingredients like these in consumable products.  

Stay vigilant my friends, because we do not live in a country where those in control are concerned with either the present or the future of its citizens, as long as they can still suck money from our veins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your site recently while searching for dirt on Chase.  As someone who is very concerned with corporate abuse of consumers, I think it is an important and laudable thing you are doing, something all too rare.  After reading this particular post I have even more respect for your position and your efforts.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the society we live in is conditioned&#8211;purposefully&#8211;to accept corporate dominance with little questioning.  The vicious ignorance which spews forth at those who stand up and fight the injustice displays how insidious and pervasive the culture of subjugation is within the American psyche.</p>
<p>Sympathizers with this site may be thoroughly aware of the immorality with which financial institutions operate themselves, but perhaps not realize that this immorality is common to corporations in ALL industries.  While it is extremely difficult to keep up on all the horrible ways in which consumers are taken advantage of by large companies, I encourage everybody to arm themselves to the extent that they can with knowledge and information in all arenas of commerce.  </p>
<p>To give merely one specific example, food corporations regularly use hydrogenated oils and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) in just about everything&#8211;check the ingredient lists of things you regularly buy.  These two ingredients have been scientifically proven for years and years to eventually cause, yes actually CAUSE, cancer and diabetes, respectfully.  Yet they are still omnipresent because they are a very cheap way to get around using higher quality ingredients.  Companies are literally, physically KILLING uninformed consumers who blindly trust that the food they buy is safe.  In addition, HFCS is used because it suppresses the body&#8217;s normal functions which indicate to us that we are &#8220;full&#8221;, making us want to consume more.  Unfortunately, there are many ingredients like these in consumable products.  </p>
<p>Stay vigilant my friends, because we do not live in a country where those in control are concerned with either the present or the future of its citizens, as long as they can still suck money from our veins.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1602</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am listing two links from the anonymous banker web site. One is a rather long article that explains the TALF program. I find these types of articles fascinating. Others may not. In any event, this is why I fume when I see news articles with comments praising Jamie Dimon/Chase Bank for paying back TARP funds. It is all one big shell game at our expense. One can only speculate why journalists seem unwilling to ask hard questions of responsible parties and to explain the current financial debacle to the American public in terms they can understand. Possibly, the journalists don’t understand, as well. Incidentally, when you see references to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (FRBNY), remember that Jamie Dimon of Chase Bank is on the Board of Directors. The anonymous banker refers to a clear conflict of interest between TALF, JP Morgan Chase, and Trepp LLC.

http://anonymousbanker.com/?page_id=45

The other link has similar elements to the “Debtor’s Revolt” video. The article is Anonymous Banker’s Fantasy on how to lower credit card rates. It refers to a Boston Legal episode, entitled “Legal Deficits” from Season 2, Episode 10, broadcast on December 13, 2005. 

http://anonymousbanker.com/?p=393</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am listing two links from the anonymous banker web site. One is a rather long article that explains the TALF program. I find these types of articles fascinating. Others may not. In any event, this is why I fume when I see news articles with comments praising Jamie Dimon/Chase Bank for paying back TARP funds. It is all one big shell game at our expense. One can only speculate why journalists seem unwilling to ask hard questions of responsible parties and to explain the current financial debacle to the American public in terms they can understand. Possibly, the journalists don’t understand, as well. Incidentally, when you see references to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (FRBNY), remember that Jamie Dimon of Chase Bank is on the Board of Directors. The anonymous banker refers to a clear conflict of interest between TALF, JP Morgan Chase, and Trepp LLC.</p>
<p><a href="http://anonymousbanker.com/?page_id=45" rel="nofollow">http://anonymousbanker.com/?page_id=45</a></p>
<p>The other link has similar elements to the “Debtor’s Revolt” video. The article is Anonymous Banker’s Fantasy on how to lower credit card rates. It refers to a Boston Legal episode, entitled “Legal Deficits” from Season 2, Episode 10, broadcast on December 13, 2005. </p>
<p><a href="http://anonymousbanker.com/?p=393" rel="nofollow">http://anonymousbanker.com/?p=393</a></p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1595</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the Federal Reserve, HR 1207 appears likely to pass the House, but S 604, &quot;The Federal Reserve Sunshine Act of 2009&quot; faces an uphill battle in the Senate. Here is a list of sponsors:

The 25 co-sponsors, 19 republicans and 6 democrats:

John Barrasso [R-WY] 
Robert Bennett [R-UT] 
Samuel Brownback [R-KS] 
Richard Burr [R-NC] 
Benjamin Cardin [D-MD] 
Saxby Chambliss [R-GA] 
Thomas Coburn [R-OK] 
John Cornyn [R-TX] 
Michael Crapo [R-ID] 
Jim DeMint [R-SC] 
Byron Dorgan [D-ND] 
Russell Feingold [D-WI] 
Lindsey Graham [R-SC] 
Charles Grassley [R-IA] 
Thomas Harkin [D-IA] 
Orrin Hatch [R-UT] 
Kay Hutchison [R-TX] 
James Inhofe [R-OK] 
John Isakson [R-GA] 
Blanche Lincoln [D-AR] 
John McCain [R-AZ] 
Lisa Murkowski [R-AK] 
James Risch [R-ID] 
David Vitter [R-LA] 
Jim Webb [D-VA]

I, for one, would like to know what the Fed has been up to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Federal Reserve, HR 1207 appears likely to pass the House, but S 604, &#8220;The Federal Reserve Sunshine Act of 2009&#8243; faces an uphill battle in the Senate. Here is a list of sponsors:</p>
<p>The 25 co-sponsors, 19 republicans and 6 democrats:</p>
<p>John Barrasso [R-WY]<br />
Robert Bennett [R-UT]<br />
Samuel Brownback [R-KS]<br />
Richard Burr [R-NC]<br />
Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]<br />
Saxby Chambliss [R-GA]<br />
Thomas Coburn [R-OK]<br />
John Cornyn [R-TX]<br />
Michael Crapo [R-ID]<br />
Jim DeMint [R-SC]<br />
Byron Dorgan [D-ND]<br />
Russell Feingold [D-WI]<br />
Lindsey Graham [R-SC]<br />
Charles Grassley [R-IA]<br />
Thomas Harkin [D-IA]<br />
Orrin Hatch [R-UT]<br />
Kay Hutchison [R-TX]<br />
James Inhofe [R-OK]<br />
John Isakson [R-GA]<br />
Blanche Lincoln [D-AR]<br />
John McCain [R-AZ]<br />
Lisa Murkowski [R-AK]<br />
James Risch [R-ID]<br />
David Vitter [R-LA]<br />
Jim Webb [D-VA]</p>
<p>I, for one, would like to know what the Fed has been up to.</p>
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		<title>By: Alessandro Machi</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1593</link>
		<dc:creator>Alessandro Machi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most important of all, if you have a bit of time, go to the debtors revolt Youtube video and respond to the dum dum commenters that seem to be oblivious to the primary complaint of the video, which is that 30% interest rate, even 23.99% interest rate, IS USURY AND IT IS ROBBERY AS WELL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most important of all, if you have a bit of time, go to the debtors revolt Youtube video and respond to the dum dum commenters that seem to be oblivious to the primary complaint of the video, which is that 30% interest rate, even 23.99% interest rate, IS USURY AND IT IS ROBBERY AS WELL.</p>
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		<title>By: Alessandro Machi</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/09/16/contracts-written-by-credit-card-companies-are-bad-faith-agreements-which-seems-to-be-alright-with-anyone-who-is-able-to-pay-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>Alessandro Machi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, I could mirror my life experiences with Bob&#039;s, except I spent money on professional video equipment.  I vowed that whatever video job I did, I wanted it to be of such quality that people might call me ten years later asking for copies on whatever new video format would replace VHS, and that the quality and craftsmenship would stand the test of time.

Guess what, it&#039;s happening.  I&#039;m getting calls from people that I made video masters for TEN TO 12 YEARS AGO wanting them transfered to DVD! I&#039;m blown away at how good the professional gear I used respectfully back then, holds up even today. But I have paid a huge financial price as well.  

Yet, I too have such incredible experience in the editing room and from camera work I did during the 90&#039;s and earlier this decade and that knowledge continues to propel me forward.  I never once used my credit card expenses on frivolity, cars, vacations, nor internet porn.  

To my surprise, one thing that has held me back were some of the people that I considered role models, brilliant people who ran their own businesses, who in some instances I did some amazingly good work for for way below what it really should have cost, who have never looked back and thought of a way to help boost me forward, even as I did certain projects for them that helped propel them forward.

I&#039;ve had situations where a client may have blown a couple of grand buying drinks for crowds of people in bar, then they watch every dollar they spent in my studio as if it were their last nickle. lol, maybe it was.

I&#039;ve had people who were offered television broadcast jobs specifically after viewing editing work i did on their behalf, only to see them refuse the broadcast offers, resulting in my not being able to put their career path success on my own resume.

What do we call people who pay their way, but then don&#039;t follow all the way through on projects that you helped create momentum for? 

There are other forms of debtors out there, and in many instances their imperfections have affected our own path to success, so I can&#039;t take anyone who judges me too harshly, very seriously, instead, I just avoid them, and that is their loss, and my gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, I could mirror my life experiences with Bob&#8217;s, except I spent money on professional video equipment.  I vowed that whatever video job I did, I wanted it to be of such quality that people might call me ten years later asking for copies on whatever new video format would replace VHS, and that the quality and craftsmenship would stand the test of time.</p>
<p>Guess what, it&#8217;s happening.  I&#8217;m getting calls from people that I made video masters for TEN TO 12 YEARS AGO wanting them transfered to DVD! I&#8217;m blown away at how good the professional gear I used respectfully back then, holds up even today. But I have paid a huge financial price as well.  </p>
<p>Yet, I too have such incredible experience in the editing room and from camera work I did during the 90&#8217;s and earlier this decade and that knowledge continues to propel me forward.  I never once used my credit card expenses on frivolity, cars, vacations, nor internet porn.  </p>
<p>To my surprise, one thing that has held me back were some of the people that I considered role models, brilliant people who ran their own businesses, who in some instances I did some amazingly good work for for way below what it really should have cost, who have never looked back and thought of a way to help boost me forward, even as I did certain projects for them that helped propel them forward.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had situations where a client may have blown a couple of grand buying drinks for crowds of people in bar, then they watch every dollar they spent in my studio as if it were their last nickle. lol, maybe it was.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had people who were offered television broadcast jobs specifically after viewing editing work i did on their behalf, only to see them refuse the broadcast offers, resulting in my not being able to put their career path success on my own resume.</p>
<p>What do we call people who pay their way, but then don&#8217;t follow all the way through on projects that you helped create momentum for? </p>
<p>There are other forms of debtors out there, and in many instances their imperfections have affected our own path to success, so I can&#8217;t take anyone who judges me too harshly, very seriously, instead, I just avoid them, and that is their loss, and my gain.</p>
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