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	<title>Comments on: And yet one more class action lawsuit: Good for us, bad for Chase</title>
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		<title>By: This time, on this day, this credit card company, went too far over the line with these customers, and got it got burned to a crisp &#8211; ChangeinTerms.com</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/02/06/another-class-action-lawsuit-good-for-us-bad-for-chase/comment-page-1/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>This time, on this day, this credit card company, went too far over the line with these customers, and got it got burned to a crisp &#8211; ChangeinTerms.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] priori, I have written more than one post on &#8220;good&#8221; faith&#8221; versus &#8220;bad faith&#8221; &#8212; without being a lawyer I still knew that this was an underpinning of the legal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] priori, I have written more than one post on &#8220;good&#8221; faith&#8221; versus &#8220;bad faith&#8221; &#8212; without being a lawyer I still knew that this was an underpinning of the legal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Robert Lahm</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/02/06/another-class-action-lawsuit-good-for-us-bad-for-chase/comment-page-1/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Robert Lahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment Terry,

I have visited your blog and added a comment under your post about Chase.  Best wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Terry,</p>
<p>I have visited your blog and added a comment under your post about Chase.  Best wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: marv</title>
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		<dc:creator>marv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They never followed through on the threat with me either. I paid them off anyway.

Paid over 3K in closing costs on a refi 1st mortgage to do it.  I wonder if Dr Ron would provide me the text of that letter he used to get his $110 back...

I&#039;ld like to see just how stupid they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They never followed through on the threat with me either. I paid them off anyway.</p>
<p>Paid over 3K in closing costs on a refi 1st mortgage to do it.  I wonder if Dr Ron would provide me the text of that letter he used to get his $110 back&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ld like to see just how stupid they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 04:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my February 2009 statement on the gray account.  Account still not closed, but also no $10 fee or higher minimum.  Chase has not yet answered my second notice that they recieved on Jan. 20th asking them to confirm I am opted-out (to my first notice which they received on Dec. 30 2008, they had replied &quot;we please call us to discuss your option&quot;  Like hell!  I&#039;m not talking to you anymore!)

Ronald---I&#039;d send a copy of that letter you got from Chase to all three class action lawyers.  The varying types of responses Chase is issuing, including an outright denial of your attempt at an opt-out request, would be very helpful for them to know, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my February 2009 statement on the gray account.  Account still not closed, but also no $10 fee or higher minimum.  Chase has not yet answered my second notice that they recieved on Jan. 20th asking them to confirm I am opted-out (to my first notice which they received on Dec. 30 2008, they had replied &#8220;we please call us to discuss your option&#8221;  Like hell!  I&#8217;m not talking to you anymore!)</p>
<p>Ronald&#8212;I&#8217;d send a copy of that letter you got from Chase to all three class action lawyers.  The varying types of responses Chase is issuing, including an outright denial of your attempt at an opt-out request, would be very helpful for them to know, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: marv</title>
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		<dc:creator>marv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a survey from Chase today.  Seems they think I might want to compliment them on the bang up job they did screwing me.

That extra 4% APR buys a lot of superfluous correspondence it would seem.

At least it was postage paid.  I filled the envelope with cat crap because I didn&#039;t know where to get that white powder that disgruntled folks normally inclose.

I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be overwhelmed by promotional offers in the coming weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a survey from Chase today.  Seems they think I might want to compliment them on the bang up job they did screwing me.</p>
<p>That extra 4% APR buys a lot of superfluous correspondence it would seem.</p>
<p>At least it was postage paid.  I filled the envelope with cat crap because I didn&#8217;t know where to get that white powder that disgruntled folks normally inclose.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll be overwhelmed by promotional offers in the coming weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: marv</title>
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		<dc:creator>marv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad faith my butt!

Scalliwags they is!

Common crooks which own our lawmakers.

&quot; Birds of a feather&quot;  my granny would have said.  After Chase is done with us the lawmakers will give them a bailout.

Want a cherry on it?

Prolly why she took her egg money outta the mattress and buried it in that coffee can in the back yard.

Too bad it was one of those newfangled plastic jobs or I&#039;ld find it with my trusty metal detector and pay the bastards off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad faith my butt!</p>
<p>Scalliwags they is!</p>
<p>Common crooks which own our lawmakers.</p>
<p>&#8221; Birds of a feather&#8221;  my granny would have said.  After Chase is done with us the lawmakers will give them a bailout.</p>
<p>Want a cherry on it?</p>
<p>Prolly why she took her egg money outta the mattress and buried it in that coffee can in the back yard.</p>
<p>Too bad it was one of those newfangled plastic jobs or I&#8217;ld find it with my trusty metal detector and pay the bastards off.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Pearson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 02:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you. Under many circumstances, I am not in favor of class action lawsuits. But in this case, it is important that you fight these guys. 

Chase has been completely unethical in these matters. The loan shark executives at Chase should be put in prison for this massive bait and switch. But at least the lawsuit can ding their income a little.

I would like to see congress accelerate the new credit card rules to be effective immediately. In fact, they should make it retroactive. Especially in light of the bad behavior of companies like Chase in the past couple months. Customers who acted in good faith should not be punished by unreasonable contract changes at any time, but especially this time.

Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you. Under many circumstances, I am not in favor of class action lawsuits. But in this case, it is important that you fight these guys. </p>
<p>Chase has been completely unethical in these matters. The loan shark executives at Chase should be put in prison for this massive bait and switch. But at least the lawsuit can ding their income a little.</p>
<p>I would like to see congress accelerate the new credit card rules to be effective immediately. In fact, they should make it retroactive. Especially in light of the bad behavior of companies like Chase in the past couple months. Customers who acted in good faith should not be punished by unreasonable contract changes at any time, but especially this time.</p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Robert Lahm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Robert Lahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ronald,

The fact that there are two class action lawsuits that have already been filed, with more likely to come, means that Chase&#039;s response is not necessarily the &quot;end of the story.&quot;  In other words, I am of the opinion that these firms would not be filing if they thought that Chase&#039;s position was correct, and defensible.  There&#039;s plenty more to be said, and we&#039;re saying it here!  The word is also spreading to more and more media outlets.  This is going to be a consumer revolt story by the time it&#039;s all said and done.  These firms that have filed suits believe that Chase violated the terms of its promotional offer, and it can hide behind any arguments that it may wish, but I do not not think that Chase will prevail as a defendant.  Best wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ronald,</p>
<p>The fact that there are two class action lawsuits that have already been filed, with more likely to come, means that Chase&#8217;s response is not necessarily the &#8220;end of the story.&#8221;  In other words, I am of the opinion that these firms would not be filing if they thought that Chase&#8217;s position was correct, and defensible.  There&#8217;s plenty more to be said, and we&#8217;re saying it here!  The word is also spreading to more and more media outlets.  This is going to be a consumer revolt story by the time it&#8217;s all said and done.  These firms that have filed suits believe that Chase violated the terms of its promotional offer, and it can hide behind any arguments that it may wish, but I do not not think that Chase will prevail as a defendant.  Best wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have been victimized by Chase Bank. Standard story at a rate of 3.99%. 15,000.00 outstanding balance. I have been in contact with Lieff Cabraser Heimann and Bernstein regarding the class action. I have a letter from Chase if it will help that states &quot;Accordingly, we have operated your account in compliance with all applicable laws and we regret that we are not able to honor your request to keep the original terms.&quot; In my limited understanding of law it seems to me that the term &quot;ORIGINAL TERMS&quot; means the beginning- origin- from the start. What more can be said.
Ronald Gray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have been victimized by Chase Bank. Standard story at a rate of 3.99%. 15,000.00 outstanding balance. I have been in contact with Lieff Cabraser Heimann and Bernstein regarding the class action. I have a letter from Chase if it will help that states &#8220;Accordingly, we have operated your account in compliance with all applicable laws and we regret that we are not able to honor your request to keep the original terms.&#8221; In my limited understanding of law it seems to me that the term &#8220;ORIGINAL TERMS&#8221; means the beginning- origin- from the start. What more can be said.<br />
Ronald Gray</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Robert Lahm</title>
		<link>http://www.changeinterms.com/2009/02/06/another-class-action-lawsuit-good-for-us-bad-for-chase/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Robert Lahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 05:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris,

Your observations about consolidation (later) and gaining a foothold are consistent with the way I (as a layperson) understand the process as well.  Thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>Your observations about consolidation (later) and gaining a foothold are consistent with the way I (as a layperson) understand the process as well.  Thanks for your comment.</p>
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